what is the best way to go as far as coolers and mobos are concerned.
also what is the cheapest?
i am currently looking at the dark rock pro 2, h100, noctua nh u14s, xigmatek dark knight 2 night hawk, and the phanteks ph_tc14pe_bk.
i am also interested in others setups.
Custom water cooling. I have an nh-d14, which is supposed to be top of the line, and it hits 60 degrees on prime 95 at 4.5 ghz. I probably got a bad 8350 but realistically if you want safe temps for 5 ghz you want custom water cooling. Its possible to get a good cpu (stable and low temps), but amd are hand picking good cpus for the 9590s and 9370s and good 8350 are becoming few and far between. Honestly, if you're just gaming, ocing the cpu will not do much (4-5 fps AT MOST).
Get that custom loop. I got it, from the same site. (It looks like a bad site, but it is very respected in the watercooling world)
I'm using it now, I had my 8150 OCed to 5.0, and temps were under 60c. I also currently am Direct Dye cooling my haswell i5 with it. Can hit 5.0GHz, and stay under 80c.
It comes with everything you need, has more than double the performance of any closed loop system, and is easy to install, if you look up guides on youtube. And as long as you leaktest for about a day before you plug in your motherboard, you wont damage anything.
Custom loops arent as scary as people think.
The setup mentioned above is very good but Logan sad that you can hit 5 ghz with a NZXT Kraken x60 that's if and only if you won the CPU lottery which was about 1 every 5 processors and you bought the CPU before the realease of the 9xxx series which basically destroy any chance of you getting a 5 ghz 8350.
$150 is way out of my budget right now. and when was the 9000 series released?
The 9000 series is an oced 8350. Not worth it unless you find a really good sale.
I have a custom loop and even I have trouble getting 5Ghz stable with decent temps and voltage. Right now my 8350 is at 4.94Ghz with 1.4875v and that is rock solid stable but to get to 5Ghz stable I need like 1.53v and the temps are too high for my liking.
I pushed a solid 1.65v through my 8150. Toasty.
yeah i think i get it now, tough luck for me and the big 5 GHz.
but we will see...
Are you referring to the binning process or something else? All chips are tested and sold at different speed ratings. It's perfectly OK to prefer a slower chip, but you seem to imply they are the same product, and that's not true. If you buy a 9000 it's likely to have passed tests that an 8350 has not.
Intel does exactly the same thing with all of its CPUs, many different products come from the same wafer and are tested and binned, then sold according to how they fared in the testing.
The problem with the 9000 is that it consumes 200+ Watts. But it is not overclocked.
I may be wrong as I don't own an 8350 but I've heard of people disabling cores (If that's a thing, hopefully I didn't imagine all this) In order to get to 5ghz. Obviously you would lose the advantage of have an oct core cpu but if you're only gaming you might gain or lose fps depending on the situation.
No, that's wrong.
They started out selling the 8350 alone.
People started getting 5GHz overclocks on them easily.
AMD figured out they could add more power to them to get them stable, and started picking the good ones and selling them at 5GHz and selling them for huge amounts of money.
Binning is when they sell inferior products for less.
They did the opposite. They are selling the exceptional chips, which should be part of the "Silicon lottery" for tons of cash..
This makes actually finding an 8350 that can OC to 5GHz very hard to find anymore. Because they are already selling it as a 9 series.
You are correct.
I can push 5Ghz easy on my piece of shit motherboard if I disable 6 cores. It's not helpful in any way, but it does prove your point. On 8 cores I can't go past 4.4
why would you pass 5GHZ anyway? a solid 4.6/4.8 ghz are realy nice numbers, and also save numbers. real life performance diffrence between 4.8 and 5.0ghz will not be mind blowing , only the price will be..
And what is the benefit of getting 6GHZ wenn i have to disable, 4 cores..? in my opinnion you will get worse performance..
to ansewr the question:
people say the h100 and h100i are the same aside from that corsair link (?) feature, this is true right.
maybe 1C difference, don't use that pansy shit anyway, put your huggies on and do real water cooling
I'm 4 feet away from a 4670K at 4.8Ghz under 80C on the 240mm one
its super easy to set up
games that don't use more than 4 cores and if you disable 1 core per pair you'll still have 4FPUs, 1 for each interger core like a traditional CPU
same product meaning that fresh off the assembly line the archetexture and traces on the die are the exact SAME. the quality of the silicon get binned later and then into FX83xxs and FX9xxx
Yes. I, for one, am upset that they figured this out after the fact, and basically took away the ability to overclock because the ones that could, are now being sold as 9 series.