Probably not, would still recommend a B x50 board.
For the Zen based Athlon (200GE and the like), A320 is fine. And a 200GE will be enough for webbrowsing and office style workloads.
Probably not, would still recommend a B x50 board.
For the Zen based Athlon (200GE and the like), A320 is fine. And a 200GE will be enough for webbrowsing and office style workloads.
Agree if you want to run an Ryzen apu it would be better to grab a B-series board.
If you don’t plan to overclock, then the Gigabyte B450 Pro wifi for example,
could be interesting, because this board has a 3 phase soc vrm.
The vcore vrm is a bit lack luster, however with an Ryzen apu at stock no overclocking should work fine.
All of the mATX boards kinda suck, might be some overpriced x570 options coming out.
There are a few decent ones from a vrm and vrm cooling perspective. I don’t think we’ll know how well anything runs on them until X2 actually launches but there are some B450m paper tigers. X570 prices are going to be high and most people won’t be utilizing PCIE 4 to the degree that makes the price worth it.
But why exactly? That’s my point. Will it fry the cpu? Start a fire in my room? Die soon?
Under what circumstances?
I wold probably recommend the MSI B450M Mortar or the B450M Pro4. The MSI board is kinda expensive but it is supposedly really not bad at all, while the Pro4 is probably the cheapest board you will find that is still OK.
No, it will be fine at stock. And it will be locked at stock.
As per AMD
The graphics part of Ryzen/Athlon APUs is powered from the so called “SOC VRM”, wich tends to lack heatsinks on A320 boards. Toasty MOSFETs are one thing (they are fine at 80°C), toasty (cheap) capacitors are not fine for long.
So: Low power APU in low power board, high power APU in mainstream board.
Note:
The Athlon APUs are locked anyway, so locked CPU in locked mainboard. Makes sense?
Thank you! Finally I have a good answer haha
I see the point now. Guess I won’t be going that route then… will probably opt for a quad i3
thanks again!
Make a thread (Category: #hardware:build-a-pc ), lay out what you want the machine to do and get some suggestions.
My understanding is not just that the A series boards don’t OC the CPU, but some of them have no options for changing the RAM speed, and it’s quite common for DDR4 to not run out of the box at the rated speed. If none of that matters to you more than cost then there is nothing stopping you from buying an A320 and 200GE.
I really wish manufacturers would post up a truly complete set of pics for every single BIOS page the way Wendell does when he reviews boards.
I don´t want to take this topic too far off.
But yeah it´s all yet to be seen.
Asrock announced atleast one matx board the X570M pro4.
If they use the same Drmos powerpacks as they do on their entire X570 line up.
Then it could actually be something decent.
But i can´t tell just yet.
Would have been nice to make an mATX Tachi like my x399m
Oh that was a really nice board… I love that asrock made it. Too bad they didn’t made an AM4 version…
Yeah kinda weird that there isn´t that much attention for m-atx,
anymore on mainstream platforms.
And with AMD it´s even more weird that they actually did,
made a Threadripper m-atx board.
I mean m-atx on mainstream makes allot more sense then HEDT.
Asrock are kinda the only people that pay attention to mATX…
They have the whole PRO4 lineup in mATX form factor… Both B350 and X370… Gigabite and MSI have a board or two, but ASROCK are the ONLY choice in HEDT mATX competition. Nobody else even tried. Asrock won there…
They have 5 different B450 boards and have an X470 board ready…
Pretty much all a matter of money really.
Believe it or not, but m-atx and itx boards are generally significantly,
more expensive to design and fabricate then standard atx or e-atx.
I don’t…
Seriously, I don’t…
A feature poor board like my Pro4 can easily be squeezed into an mATX size. Also the X570 mATX board would not need repeaters, since the signal won’t have to travel that far away. Honestly, the chipset cooling is gonna be the largest challenge for X570 mATX board, since there isn’t that much space for larger rad and fan…
Thats true.
However the design of a m-atx is generally more expensive,
because they likely gonna sell less of them.
I´m not sure why m-atx lost its popularity that much.
Of course m-atx is still used in oem´s but still…
Because it’s literally in no man’s land…
If you want small form factor - you build an ITX system.
If you want a large system you build an ATX system.
mATX is both large enough to turn off the ITX crowd and limiting enough to turn off the ATX crowd… It’s literally super niche market.
PS: It’s a self fulfilling prophesy at that point…
Nobody buys mATX because there are no decent boards and cases. Nobody makes decent boards and cases, because nobody buys mATX. That means nobody will buy mATX because there are no decent … You get the point…
Yup chicken and egg problem.
Also the custom pc building market as we know it,
is also kinda shrinking now days.
mobile devices and laptops are generally getting more popular.
Which is kinda unfortunate.