Any suggestions and recommendations?
Depends on your system.
If you're a Windows user, you're probably better off with something that compresses, but if you're using your PC like a real PC, you might want to avoid SandForce controllers or other things that compress for performance, because there will be not much to compress, especially not when using encryption, which is uncompressable.
It also depends on your use. If you're going to use it for video production caching, get an MLC SSD, if you're just going to use it for your system or other non-intensive use, get a TLC SSD.
Overall, Samsung SSDs rule. They support ATA-encryption without having the spiked Intel CPU of your computer do the encryption computing, they don't compress, they have a great throughput, and they work very well autotrimming in linux. They do seem to lose some performance over time with the very ancient and handicapped Windows filesystems and active trim function that windows has to use for it's convoluted and fragmenting super slow and storage wasting filesystems, but will still perform better than most competition in all circumstances. If you're using your hardware as a real PC, you'll also be able to use the open source F2FS filesystem that Samsung has made especially for flash-based storage, which offers huge performance increases in comparison with FAT or NTFS, and even pretty performance increases in comparison with traditional linux filesystems in most applications. That filesystem works on all SSDs that don't include a controller that blocks that filesystem from being used, which is the case on some SSDs. But it's not limited to Samsung SSDs alone, it's open source.
If you're using Windows, just get the cheapest SSD you can find, it just doesn't matter, you'll never get the real performance benefit out of it anyway, and every SSD will perform equally well in real use case scenarios. For the moment, the Kingston V300 drives are probably the best bang for the buck, they perform reasonably well, and they use 26nm flash, which is a bit deprecated technology right now, so they're cheap. And it's not because the litho is bigger that the performance is affected in any way, 26 nm flash is as good as 19 nm flash, it just uses a tiny bit more power, not even worth mentioning, and the SSD weighs a tiny bit more because there is more silicon in it. And Kingston SSDs are definitely good enough quality for years of reliable use in standard applications.
This answer is bullshit.
Turning every thread into a "If you aren't using linux, don't worry about performance!" Thread is fucking asinine.
Hold on. Using a PC like a real PC? Is there a wrong way to use one? You build/buy for what you need.
Don't worry. Zoltan just has a complex. Everyone that uses windows is apparently inferior.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239045
Best SSD you will get for the price. Amazing performance.
Thanks, Phantom.
For reference, you want to look for the highest amount of IOPS for speed, in most cases. the 4k random read and write speeds.
The higher those numbers, the faster the drive.
Your post is bullshit.
He is right with everything he said.
You have to compress before encrypting because encrypting removes patterns which are used by compression algorithms. Having the compression in the hardware means that you have to do compression after encryption which is practically wasted time, power and reliability. On Windows you typically don't do full disk encryption and that's because it just sucks compared to linux.
Oh, and Windows still has fragmenting filesystems which linux didn't have for like 10 years. When it comes to filesystems Windows is generally 10 years behind linux.
He doesn't say you shouldn't worry about performance if you're using linux. Actually he says that you should look at performance and not at stuff like in-build compression which won't do anything if you use encryption.
If you're using Windows, just get the cheapest SSD you can find, it just doesn't matter, you'll never get the real performance benefit out of it anyway, and every SSD will perform equally well in real use case scenarios.
That's wrong. Take your fanboyism elsewhere and actually answer the damn question. He asked which was best for the money. He didn't ask for an essay about why linux beats windows.
I was going to say Samsung evo 840
But that Kingston doesnt look bad aswell.
The samsung has a slower write speed, but damn, it's reads are fast.
Best for the money is to use linux. He's also right that "you'll never get the real performance benefit out of it anyway" if you use Windows. You can disagree with the following sentence: "just get the cheapest SSD you can find, it just doesn't matter". I for one disagree with him in this regard.
I see, I only have a samsung, does the kingston use that 30GB turbocache aswel? (that thingy if you leave 30GB free it is working faster)
That's what I was disagreeing with the entire time.
Taking the "Linux vs windows" thing to then point that he's bashing windows and giving false information.
Kingston seems more balanced in reads and writes per second than the EVO.
@Zoltan: imo this little rant isn't necessary. Your forced injection of irrelevant information is very annoying. Not to mention you're clearly way too opinionated to provide any real advice when it comes to PC parts.
Let me educate you a little. PC.. which - since its invention - has stood for Personal Computer means that any Personal Computer (that isn't a Mac) regardless of use case, as long as it belongs to somebody, makes it a 'real PC'.
Anybody who is asking about a price performance breakdown of a 120gb SSD probably isn't interested in MLC or TLC or SLC or interface configurations or encryption. If he was in a position where any of that information mattered i would be willing to bet he would have his own opinions and wouldn't feel the need to post here for information. On a real deep note, for three seconds stop sucking the farts out of your own rear end and try to be helpful.
As for the OP: My advice would be to troll newegg or amazon. The 120-128gb price point is really competitive and they're nearly all priced the same give or take $15-$20 save for a few top tier drives. I game on windows and have a Corsair Force Series 3 120gb and a PNY XLR8 PRO 120gb which both use very similar SandForce memory controllers. Both of them have served me well and i waited for a deal to pop up on both of them. Got the PNY for $99 and the Corsair for $89. Extremely fast drives, very high value parts for not a lot of bucks. But because the prices on the these drives are constantly changing it would be tough to tell which SSD is the best for the money. I would endorse the others' recommendations of the Kingston HyperX 3K drive... Logan and the guys have stood by that drive multiple times during the show.
OMG, how dare he take linux into account when speaking about hardware... quick, let's stick a label on him and run to mommy...
Anyone that says that they have a visible performance difference in general use between SSDs when using a single SSD on a Windows bare metal machine, should have their eyes fixed. Synthetic benchmarks mean nothing for real use performance. Fact: Windows filesystems write data all over the place, and luckily that's exactly the way SSDs work, and then uses a software algorithm to post-factum - using system resources - discard unused data. The combination of the different uses that encompasses, makes that different performance factors are equally important, so some SSDs will do one thing faster, for instance those that use compression to accelerate data throughput will load a file faster, while that performance will be undone by the fact that the cleaning up after a data shift or file operations will be slower, because the compression works counter-productive for that. So yeah, in regular use, it really doesn't matter. And in linux, it's a completely different story, and it does matter, and the performance will always be higher, no matter what. I'm open to informed suggestions that would make a case for the opposite.
Oh and the Lounge thread is not your mommy... I talk about operating systems as I want, sans complexes, and with as much contempt for closed source software that I know and have used, as I see fit, I don't feel the need to please anyone or walk in anyone's shadow, I will talk with just as much contempt about an open source program if I have made an opinion about it by actually using it and finding it crap, and I don't need anyone else to tell me what i should think or what my opinion should be or how I should express my opinion. I will - as I've done always done before - also answer anyone that wants to seriously debate or discuss, without having to resort to any argument against the person, and will admit defeat to anyone that presents a better argument or exposes a sophism in my speech. It's much harder to stand your ground and speak up when everyone else shuts up or does nothing but endlessly repeat the mantra they were taught to endlessly repeat in case of ignorance and/or doubt, but it's also much more interesting. Nothing was ever accomplished by "épater les bourgeois" with meaningless salon discussions, but a lot was accomplished by knocking their masks, cloaks and hats off and making them watch while throwing their leaders and idols under a bloody guillotine...
You're making a lot of assumptions for the text the OP contained. I don't agree with those assumptions at all, a 120 GB SSD is actually a pretty large SSD for a linux desktop system, and nothing to classify as a "cheap choice". And why assume that a person that doesn't specify the operating system he uses, is a windows console user? Do you dislike people that give a full set of to the point information covering multiple operating systems, or do you generally object to complete information and think information should be censored towards a particular bias? Seems to me like I'm not the one most in need of education. Other than that, a Mac is actually also a personal computer. Maybe not everything I write is necessary for one person, but it might be useful for another person, and as this is a public forum, well... I didn't want to censor my post and only talk about a real free and open source computing environment, but I also wanted to include some legacy closed source software, hey, call me naive, I don't care...