this gigabyte card is 9 inches in length. the Fury X stock cooler is around 7-ish.
There is a limit, a psychological one, when you see a card that's longer then that set limit, it doesn't matter if it's 9" or 11". It's already in the "long card" category.
eh If I see a card bigger than 10 inches I consider the card long. most normal cards are around 10.5 inches in length at the most. Sapphire, MSI (with the Lightning), and Gigabyte are the only OEMs that feel the need to extend the card to absurd lengths.
I think most people consider "short" something that is closer to the PCIe latch. Anything longer then that, is "long". And then there's "too long". (insert "that's what she said" joke here)
So Nano is the short card here. There's a reason they showed it to us when they launched the Fury X. Marketing. So that people would associate the Fury X with the tiny Nano in the back of their mind. So, subconsciously we would think of the Fury X as a short card.
Honestly knowing how small the Fury X can get cause of the existence of the Nano. I never understood why the Fury X was there to begin with. let the OEMS do what they want with the Nano.
You'd get another 90C monster, and you lose a chunk of the power efficiency that is brought on by cooler operation under liquid. Look at the cut back Fury and see how the hotter cards use much more power, albeit staying in the 275W window. Imagine how the full Fury X would look there, leakage would become unmanageable without serious throttling and it would just look like a joke.
"Can't beat the 980 Ti, runs hotter, is bigger and longer, needs more aggressive cooling AND it still runs up to 90C and throttles lol AMD making space heaters again."
Yeah, no. I'll take the water cooling any day over that.
And all this comes from the guy who runs a reference Radeon HD 6990. Ask me about my 80dBA 4800RPM blower fan.
Inb4, "But where do I put the radiator?!?!?" /s
with a fan cooler card? it doesn't need to be a blower card. but maybe have two fans on the thing and massive heatpipes for the stock cooler. it's not blower style coolers are flying off the shelves like they used to.
With voltage management and a triple-fan direct air cooler the cut back Fury reaches 75C, it's not a stretch to assume the Fury X would crank that up a few notches running full bore, especially once that leakage starts ramping up and suddenly your 1.212v card is sucking down 1.26v to combat the droop. Again, running cool is what keeps the Fury X running smooth.
Edited voltage, 1.17v is Fury's load, 1.212v is Fury X's.
shit. i just hate dealing with AIOs. I wish AMD would of made a better cooler than the AIO. i have a small ass case myself. all i have is two 80mm intakes and a 120mm exhaust. if I bought a Fury X now I would have to get a smaller CPU cooler and mount it to the exhaust of my case. too much headache for me.
I Think AMD need release control and hand over to the OEM and make a custom PCB or Custom Cooling for the Fury X just so they can still have a Top card competing card in their line up .
I understand why they do it.
This kinda what happens when all the computers cases are made in the same factory. It's all common knowledge the whole AIO technology was stolen from asetek designs and all the AIO watercooling is made in the same factory in China. If I was AMD i would tell them to sue them in the China courts :).
God I hope you are being sarcastic.
AMD can used the corsair defense: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/38866/coolit-can-continue-making-custom-aio-cpu-liquid-coolers-for-corsair/index.html
another proof ( have the Kraken x60)
That is not proof that ALL AIOs are designs stolen from Asetek. In the wayback times of 2005 Zalman and Corsair beat them to the "all-in-one" cooling venture. At that time Asetek was still focused on individual parts and was selling kits, not true AIOs. The only reason Asetek gets to pull these stunts is because they decided to patent every corner of their designs, and just like Apple, will sue anyone who makes anything that looks like theirs from 20 feet.
They hardly invented everything, just got to the paperwork before anyone else.
H50 is made by asetek back in 09. source: http://www.asetek.com/company/milestones/ The Zalman is also asektek based. Looking around this is the oldest model, Zalman CNPS20LQ with debut in around 2012. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Zalman-Outs-CNPS20LQ-Liquid-Cooler-Designed-by-Asetek-241247.shtml
Pretty sure 2005 we were still doing aquarium pumps.
Try this one from 2004:
Ordered from most places as a DIY kit, but sometimes pre-assembled.
And here's Corsair's Nautilus from 2006:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181004
I seriously wouldn't even consider those AIO kits. Have you seen how people build them into their PC on those old build logs? Reservator I've seen, it's more akind to an aftermarket intake kit than an AIO. The second one I have yet to see but I would expect more complex. Calling them AIO is like calling my custom loop, an AIO and portable.
Those are absolutely AIOs. The distinction you are missing is the term CLOSED-LOOP, which those aren't. The CLC-AIO is a little newer, and Cooler Master was actually there first.
2006: CM Aquagate Viva
AIO-CLC for GPU cooling, with a universal retention bracket available for CPU cooling. Again, Asetek hadn't even got to mounting a pump on a waterblock at this point... Although they had the VapoChill so who cared? Phase change was the future and the money to them at the time.
Asetek should be renamed to "Arsetek" or "Trolltek" as they did NOTHING but run arround collecting paper.
Designs I found:
Sorry for turning this into a pic war but this is the only way to get my point accros.
Every single one of these have a pump, a CPU-Block and a radiator connected by soft tubes. There are several combinations of those three plus tubes. Asetek is buthurt because someone looked at the patents and then put the pump into the radiator. But as their papers say, that is a different solution to the same problem. The most interesting "Knob-of with your patents"-approach is Deepcooles design. Because the connection between pump and CPU-Interface is externally, the patents are worth the paper they are printed on.
Asetek f_ _ _ ed up! When they could have gone with advancing watercooling they went to Vaporchill or how their Phasechange-solution was named. Because someone at their company got their ass kicked, this distinct someone wants to get money for something they did not put ANY effort in making this a case of patent-trolling.
The system of protecting ideas worked great in the past. But now it is like a handbrake to improvements. Gasengines can not be patented in Germany. Pumps and heaters can´t be either. Just imagine that: Someone patents a pipe heated by flames with water pumped through it. Seems bad doesn´t it?
VapoChill. It was actually one of their first products in early 2000 before they gained any reputation for cooling kits. The funny thing is they haven't gone after other companies for making refrigerant units with a hose and copper slug attached... Only pumps on copper plates.