So i was thinking about new gaming rig and i have no clue which of these two procesors are more suted for gaming! Basically which is better?
In a very broad sense, AMD is cheaper and Intel is more expensive but outperforms AMD in some situations for gaming.
AMD is still an extremely strong contender though, so don't knock it just yet!
Giving us an idea of your budget would help us tekkies decide what's best for your rig!
well about 700 Euro its about 799.89 USD!
get an AMD because intel proscesser's are way more expensive and the AMD is more of a gaming processer...
seriously! wow didnt know that. in what way amd is more gaming processor?
I'm sorry but someone has to say it... What total nonsense is this? That's on par with the kind of "xfx radeon gtx 800 black edition" type crap that was in a funny thread based on a nonsensical facebook post..
What exactly makes a "gaming processor"? Maybe it's core count... Except that most games aren't optmised for more than 4, although if they were an 8 core 16 thread 5960x from Intel would be pretty good, no? Maybe it's core speed? Oh wait, IPC and architecture also makes a difference here since an fx8350 OC'd to 4.8GHz is probably still going to lose to a 4790k at 4.4GHz..
You only have to look at benchmarks like this from anandtech to see that the current-gen AMD stuff loses out in gaming performance due to the significant architecture and IPC advantage that Intel has currently.
Does this make AMD stuff unusable? No not at all, in terms of relative price to performance an 8350 is perfectly capable as a lower priced CPU option, and in some instances like the Tomb Raider benchmarks it's behind by so little it really makes zero practical difference, so it's a much better choice from a price to performance perspective than a much more expensive option. How much of an advantage Intel CPUs will give depends on the game itself, what res it's being played at, what GPU the system has to name just some variables..
Bottom line is that Intel currently will give anywhere from inconsequentially better to noticeably better gaming performance, and they're significantly more expensive to reflect that. This might change with the new AMD CPUs, whenever they release, as if they can catch up on that IPC deficit they might be able to deliver some compelling options, especially for uses outside of gaming if the rumours of even more cores are true, so if this isn't desperately needed to replace a dying PC or something and the OP can hang on a bit it might be worth waiting for the release
At this point in time if I was to build a pure gaming machine I would start with an Intel i5-6500 (quad core) and then move up or down that range depending on budget. If my budget is tight the i3-6100 (dual core with hyper-threading) would be perfectly adequate.
AMD CPU's have their strengths but the current models are based on old designs. AMD has some new desktop CPU's scheduled for release later this year. Some people will recommend you wait, but it sounds like you want a machine right now, so just go with what is available.
EDIT: I corrected the model of i3 mentioned.
Wait for AMD zen and then decide between Intel and AMD.
Currently Intel has the best IPC and performance per Watt. Though i would recommend AMD for price performance ratio.
But again, if you can wait for zen (hopefully by the end of this year). It will have more cores than the Intel CPUs, because it won't have any integrated graphics (which is useless for gamers)....
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If you're looking at price to performance for new, off the shelf parts, go with AMD, and make sure you patch the C compiler to stop it from using Intel's gimped code that turns off certain instruction sets if it detects a CPU not made by Intel.
To be honest, though, that's only if you're planning on just mid-range parts. The perf. goes up quite a bit with a fixed compiler, but there does come a point where Intel's IPC is legitimately quite a bit higher. You can get a lot of performance out of used Intel parts and they often sell for really good deals.
Really depends on what you want and how far you're willing to go to do it.
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These days the most important thing is GPU power. Do not take away from your budget for a video card to get an extremely expensive cpu. Now if you are going to try gaming at 4K you will need everything you can get so more GPU power and CPU power is needed.
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How is AMD more of a "gaming" processor when Intel beats it hands down every single time.
Here is the truth. AMD is good value for you money. Unfortunately the current chips are very very old and don't hold up much anymore. Zen is coming out in a year or so and could change that. But it's hard to say. Intel is more expensive but that being said it out performs AMD leaps and bounds in most games. I've used both the FX-8350 at 5.0 and now I'm on the i7-4790k at 4.6 and I can honestly say the Intel smokes it in every game.
Though the 8core FX really catches up in dx12 titles. So that makes it an even better value...
And as @DeViLzzz said, the CPU doesn't matter too much at full HD in the dx11 titles compared to the GPU.
Welcome to the world of fanboys.
Logical shit here. If vulkan gets widely used you can get an amd 8370 and run a system with that, if vulkan gets used. You can otherwise get an 8370 and actually have a really good 4k build but that will take quite a bit of cash.
If you want intel then decide if you want ddr3 or ddr4 then a 47xx chip or a 6500 will be fine though there really isn't a need for ddr4 ram yet.
I would wait for zen. There have been leaks of it kicking intels ass when it is released so I'll be interested to see.
If nothing else, stay 4xxx and above for intel cpu's and if you want amd just get an 8 core, though you will be a bit behind.
For a gpu get a 380. Just skip the overpriced elitism train that is nvidia as the drivers for the cards that are out now will be killed on the next cards' release.
Lastly avoid the cardinal sin of not having an ssd and you're good.
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i would go with something like a i5-6500.
Good chip for gaming at your budget.
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This is a great chip and it's what I would be using right now if my 8350 didn't work. I have two friends who have bought this chip for their gaming rigs and they recommend them.
Personally I always go for the best money to performance ratio and for that an 8350 might be better and will perform just as well for gaming. I haven't checked up on the price but if it's a small difference go for the i5 and vice versa for a large difference, $100+ I'd go for the 8350. Just personal opinion.
I am an AMD fan (have an 8350 and works fine for everything) but if you go for a strictly gaming PC go for the i5 @MisteryAngel is referring to. AMDs are great workhorses (even the FX even though they are old).
Currently games cannot really exploit the extra cores AMDs provide so it would not makes sense for a gaming-only PC. Vulkan can change that but it will take like 2-3 years to spread. So I would go for an Intel now and consider AMD as the next processor if Vulkan becomes the norm in gaming,
For strictly gaming I'd go i5. If you want to be streaming as well or doing more than just gaming go 8350. Personally, however, I'd wait a bit (depending on when the new CPUs are supposed to be out, I don't keep track of that stuff). Furthermore, GPU is the most important part of a gaming rig and if the rumors are to be believed AMD will launch polaris fairly soon as well so I'd seriously wait for that to come out before making any decisions.
At the moment, you can't justify buying AMD if you care primarily about gaming and you can afford an i5. This may change when Zen comes out, but at the moment all AMD CPUs have inferior single-threaded performance and that bottlenecks some games. And if you can't afford i5, skylake i3 is also great for the price. In general, you shouldn't skimp on CPU, since if you do, it ends up costing you more in upgrades later. If you buy a current i5, you can expect it to last at least 5-6 years in gaming, a current AMD CPU will likely be really bad in two years already.
I'm saying this as an owner of FX-8320. Get i5-6500 or something.
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Not sure if this will help but I built my pc with an FX8350 but if I built a pc now I would grab an I5 from intel, probably wouldn't see much performance from just the cpu difference but a newer cpu and mobo will have all the bells and whistles that make us throw money at the manufacturers.