AMD or Intel for First Time Build

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So I've decided to build my first gaming pc and I've looked through a lot of research and articles like crazy but I have 2 very different build plans in place. I've created an AMD partlist and Intel partlist using the pcpartpicker website and I need some opinions on any of the choices that I may have made.

AMD build

amd fx 8350, kraken x60, asus sabertooth 990fx, kingston beast 2400mhz 16gb, adata sx900 128gb, asus radeon hd 7970, nzxt phantom 820, corsair 850w gold plus

Intel build

intel i7 3770k, kraken x60, msi z77a-gd65, kingston beast 1866mhz 16gb, adata sx900 128gb, evga gtx 680 4gb, nzxt phantom 820, corsair 850w gold plus

 

Need some opinions on compatibility issues, opinions on parts chosen and recommendations for different parts

Also want to know which build would be the idea choice solely based on comparing performance between the two

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I would choose AMD because it is cheaper and it is about as fast as Intel anyday.

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AMD build looks fine.

only the 2400 mhz ramm isnt that realy expensive? 1866 mhz is fine too

cause as following the specs. the sabbertooth only supports upto 1866mhz of ramm.

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id go with the Intel just because the 3770K is quite a bit faster than the 8350 overall (brace for fanboys) especially when overclocked, id suggest another board for it though, the Gigabyte UD3H/D3H, they have a rediculously good VRM design and work really well.

Also get a 7970 instead of a 680 for the Intel build, they Oc a bit better and are better Overall.

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I second Beyond,

People are already disregarding 1155 chips because its a dead socket. 3770k still destroys and will keep on destroying. You said solely based on performance, so intel, at this time.

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Because 1155 is an end of life socket doesn't mean the processors are obsolete immediately.. If you want to future proof your rig you should buy an AM3+ based system. But for now and the next 2 years, the Ivy Bridge 1155 cpu's will do fine. It's not like they're an instant bottleneck.

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Either is good, if you can afford it then I would say go Intel, as they do have better performance in standard gaming, although they can get a bit bogged down in streaming.

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yeah the i7 does better in normal gaming, 4/5 fps for twice the price.. :)

but its not in every game, it depending to wich games you play, and how they desigend, some like intel/nvidia setups more, other like amd/radeon setups.

midrange gaming systems just ownend bij amd its a fact :)

the i7 in gaming is faster in some games, but not that much all those intel fans will do everybody believe.

its only about 4/5 fps cause its all dependig on youre gpu in the mainaley.

then the mainboard a nicely fuetured 990fx board will cost about 125 dollar, for a  intel z77 board with simelar fuetures you quicley paying 50 dollars more

rhe saving money you can spend to a better gpu, whats more valu for a gaming rig.

and if you gonne do streaming gaming then the FX8350 is fast.

in the future  wenn programs and application become more multi treaded the amd will just do better.

im a bit more currios what hasswell is comming up with

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Grammar nazi version:

The i7 does better in everyday gaming, 4/5 fps for twice the price.. :) but it's not in every game, it depends on which games you play, and how they are designed, some like intel/nvidia systems better, other like amd/radeon setups. Midrange gaming systems just goes to AMD, fact. :)

The i7 can sometimes be faster in some games, but not that much faster all those intel fanboys tell you.

it's only about 4/5 fps because it all depends on your gpu.

then the mainboard is a fully packed 990fx board that costs about 125 dollar, for an intel z77 board with similar features you quickly pay 50 dollars more.

You can spend the left over money on a better gpu, which is an better option for a gaming rig.

and if you're going to stream games, the FX8350 is really fast.

in the near future when programs and applications become more multi-threaded, the amd will just do a better job.

i'm curious what Haswell has to offer.

 

Beter zo eh ;)

 

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goed hoor...

applaus :D

Je zou maar eens niks beters te doen hebben.. ;)

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Nee, heb ik ook niet. 

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If your talking Midrange as in 3570k vs 8350 they tie/trade blows in everything, so AMD doesent just win, theyre still a great option but thats misinformation. 

And for gaming the 3770K and 8350 May be close in games that can use 8 cores, but in others the 3770K wins, But when i said overall performance i meant everything, and in things like Rendering and Editing the 3770K bests everything but Hexacores i7's and server Processors.

Also Masterdome, your either Really good at using google Translate or are a Language God... Im Jealous haha

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If performance is the determining factor, the 3770k wins. That being said, don't get a 4GB 680. For the same amount of money, you can get a 6GB 7970! 7970s beat 680s, and work just as well with Intel CPUs. I recommend that you get a 3820 and a socket 2011 motherboard for upgrade possibilities. Just because the 3820 is not a "k" series CPU, doesn't mean it can't OC. They can go up to 4.2gHz out-of-the-box, or 5.0gHz if you are smart. Get a 3GB 7970 and save enough money to get a 3820 and 2011 board. Look into G.SKILL Trident X memory; I got 16GB of Trident X 2400mHz (2x8GB) for $134.99 - great price, very stable, performs fantastically.

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they stopped making the 6gb 7970, go with the nvidia if you want to start a youtube channel and need to rendering

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No Google Translate involved whatsoever. My English is pretty good (thanks to watching all 19 seasons of Top Gear). Thanks for the compliment.

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Wow.

Now I'm even more confused with all the different conflicting opinions.

From what I understood, I should get a 3770k, 2400mhz ram and a 7970? Can anyone send me links to a completed partlist?

I'm pretty new to the pc building scene and everytime I've tried to add 2400mhz ram cards, I'm told its incompatible. Can anyone confirm if this setup will work out of the box without messing with any settings, because I dont have a clue about overclocking.

 

Also, just to clarify, this rig will be used for 90% gaming and 10% video editing, photoshop etc.

Thanks

 

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i still say amd just price to performance.

okay the i7 will be faster with photoshop and video  editing, but the diffrence, is not the much as those intel fans make you do believe..

The amd is cheaper, and the money you saving, and (the photoshop,video editing, is inportant to you), you can also deside, to spend the money you saved, on a Nvidia GTX680 4GB gpu. (just for the cuda)

but ofc if gaming is the main thing then  the 7970 is a better go. for the money.

And btw i dont say the intel 3770K is a bad cpu. i never said that, its a great cpu, but  price to performance  189 dollar to 400+ dollar, and more expensive mainboard, and about 4/5fps somethimes maybe 10 fps for the games more optimized for intel, isnt worth the money in my eyes ;)

But if you want just the best you can get, and you can afford it, then ofc the i7 is a better choice, but to me its not worth it at the moment.

 

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Well said.

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I don't know your budget, so I threw together several builds for you:

Depending on the video editing software you use, Nvidia or AMD may be a better choice. If you are going to be using software that supports OpenCL (such as Sony Vegas), then you can get either, but I would recommend AMD cards. Your best options would be dual 7950s or dual 7970s. I would recommend dual 7970 6GBs, but they are very overpriced; you can get 2x 7950s for the price of a single 7970 6GB.

Now, all of these are the same, except for the GPU. The best choice, out of the 3, is the dual 7970 build, but dual 7950s would also be a fantastic choice. 2TB of mass-storage should be enough for video-editing; I have the exact HDD and it works fantastically. With that massive air-cooler (CPU), you could easily hit 4.6 to 5.0gHz with safe temperatures. Even though the 3820 is only 'partially-unlocked,' you can still overclock past the 43x multiplier (4.3gHz). It is quite easy; there are plenty of tutorials to show you how; just Google "overclocking 3820 to 5.0gHz."

AMD is a bad choice for multi-GPU options; even the 8350, the top-of-the-line AMD AM3+ CPU, will cause bottlenecking with 2-way, 3-way, or 4-way SLI/CF sollutions. I don't recommend AMD if you want to use multiple GPUs, which will help with video-editing.

If the software you are using is CUDA based (Adobe), I recommend using GTX 670s. I personally bought a 4GB 680 for gaming/Photoshop, and I love it to death, but I should have gotten dual-7950s or dual 670s for the money. Most Adobe software supports OpenCL, so using AMD GPUs would still give you fantastic performance out of the software, but some software only supports CUDA. Research the software you are/will be using; it will determine your hardware choices.

Here are the Nvidia options I came up with:

The 680 is a gread card, but it isn't worth the extra money. Any one of these builds would be fantastic. If you need to save money, look into getting an AMD 8350, but only a single GPU. The LGA 2011 CPUs are the best for multi-GPU situations, but LGA 1155 works great, as well. With Socket 2011, you have a solid upgrade path to hex-cores, such as the 3930k, and the possible octa-core Ivy Bridge-E CPUs. LGA 1155 has no upgrade after the 3770k; you are stuck with it, as far as that CPU/motherboard goes.

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they are all good, but ask yourself how much are you willing to spend