AM5 EPYC 4564P desktop

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I got an amazing deal on a 4564P from newegg for $275 shipped. I currently have a desktop with 3700x, Asrock b450m pro 4 and 64gb 3200 ram. I am going to use the opportunity to upgrade. I do some gaming and a decent amount of video editing as well. Here is my plan.

OS: Ubuntu 24
CPU: EPYC 4564P
MOBO: Asrock livemixer b650 $150
RAM: 64GB ddr5 6000 cl 30, non ECC $180
GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 (already have)
PSU: 1200w (already have)
Cooler: Noctua NH-U12s with 2x fans. $0 (previous build)
NIC: Connectx-4 25GB nic pcie 3x8 (already have)
Storage: 1tb Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe (already have)
Storage: 1x 14tb HDD - zfs backups from proxmox (already have)

I know the cooler is a little under spec, but I can turn on eco mode on the CPU till I feel like I want the full multicore performance. I have an x570d4u nas that I use for most of my storage, and can use one of the wired x4 slots on the mobo for my nic. The other mobo I was looking at was the b650e riptide, but I would rather have the 2 x4 slots on the livemixer.

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im telling the archmagos of this tech-heresy

jokes aside, if you can do all that at a good price, i see no reason why you shouldnt.

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what the hell
You got the best entry level server CPU and am gonna use non ECC RAM??!?!

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Ehh it seems like a waste of money for just a desktop. My proxmox/ NAS has ecc, don’t see the point for desktop.

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BUTTTTT
when you retire your NAS, this could be the new NAS…

Also, if you’re squeezin pennies the EPYC only supports 5200 Mhz RAM

overclocking is not advised

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My napkin math says it will be cheaper to buy the non ECC now and buy the ECC in 5 years. :slight_smile:

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get a new napkin…
and trade the epyc for a 7950x or 7950X3D now?

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Any idea what it is actually worth? I saw one sold on ebay for $500 recently.

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To the right person: more than a 7950X but less than a 7950X3D

You got a smokin deal, was that black friday or cyber monday that they had that sale?

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Black friday. It was posted on build a pc sales. Part of the reason I will go non ECC is amazon has the livemixer for $150 and newegg doesnt really have good prices on ecc ddr5. The cpu comes with a $100 giftcard to newegg that I will use for the ram. The total price was $375 for CPU and gift card.

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I woulda bought 4 at that price without blinking.

BUT I’d be runnin it with ECC as the AM5 EPYC’s are way less sketchy with ECC than Ryzen.

If you aren’t in a rush leave it unopened for a couple weeks. I have a feeling the value will increase as 7950’s decrease.

If you were doin a workstation build, I’d say send it but for a desktop you’d get better performance from a Ryzen.

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Also don’t forget that nested virtualization random reset bug that AMD said they will only fix on the epyc 4004 processors and let ryzen 7000 series continue to suffer.

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I think video editing will not care about 5200 ram. Gaming, I am already GPU bound at 1440p. So realistically outside of benchmarks I will not be able to tell. The boost clock is the same as 7950x.
@twin_savage
Thanks, yeah I have a 5450g in my server and just passthough the GPU to my jellyfin LXC. Immich in my docker VM could use it but I don’t plan on trying to get around the reset bug just to save a bit of power on video transcoding in immich.

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Wait just read your comment again. That is a good reason to keep the EPYC for my future server hand me down. Although so much can change in 5 years with that bug.

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so we’re back to 5200 MT ECC RAM, yes?
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The reset bug was the VM causing the entire host to reboot without warning or log entries rather than the PCIe passthrough reset bug. It has to do with the VMLOAD/VMSAVE function not being “supported” on consumer CPUs. The Linux kernel tried to get around the issue but I hear there are still problems even after the latest urgent pull request for 6.12.
AMD is going to fix the issue in microcode, but only for the epyc CPUs.

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Awesome thanks for the info! I have read a bunch of dead end threads on the proxmox forums for 5000 series, good to know this about 7000/ EPYC ryzen

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I will take a look on newegg when my mobo ships end of december for ECC and let you know if there is anything. I would be fine at 32gb. Is 4 dimms still not advised or is that just consumer ryzen?

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IF you ever plan on using this as a server later, buy the TPM module for the MoBo now and the RAM.

Registered ECC RAM goes down in value like the Titanic
But unbuffered ECC increases over time

forgot to mention: your CPU is not on the QVL for that board
You’ll want either an Asrock rack board or Supermicro for full compatibility
Again, get the TPM now and thank me later
I have to recycle servers at an average of 1 every week because the TPM modules are no longer available just 3 years later.

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Still not advised to share memory channels for any DDR5, but is advised to populate all memory channels with 1 DIMM

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