A sign that Threadripper is Epic: A Brand that hasn't used AMD CPUs in 10 years has a Threadripper Desktop

https://na.alienwarearena.com/products/area-51-threadripper-edition

Not getting Alienware, but it's a good indicator of how good Threadripper is.

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Yeah, I saw that on Ars, but surely threadripper is overkill on a gaming computer?

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They said it's for "megatasking". Like video rendering, gaming, streaming and having a virtual server at the same time.

The only problem with this is you probably could build something similar for less than Alienware would charge you.

I guess, and it is a good thing a big vendor is taking up AMD again for public consumption...
I hope the offer Ryzen, as the cost/performance for most of the X chips should take some sales away from Big Blue, and give competition a chance :slight_smile:

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The same case could be made for Pizza. Never eat out and always make your own Pizza. I'm the kind of guy that buys cheap $1 Frozen Pizzas and adds extra toppings.

Analogies aside, can you build a 13-inch gaming Laptop with an OLED Screen? Alienware is a premium experience designed not just for people that are too lazy to learn how to do it themselves and in fact a lot of their customers have built for years and want to do minimal tweaking and still get one number to call when something happens to one part. They're a solutions provider backed by Dell and they spend three years designing each machine for aesthetics, thermals and accessibility to upgrades. (they design their machines for easy upgrades) You could buy a year or two old refurb machine on the cheap from them and get the 4-year accidental damage protection and if anything happens within those 4 years, they will either send replacement parts or if a thunderstorm fried your ungrounded board, they would send you a replacement and if the replacement is so old, they don't carry it in stock, they'll send you a PC of the same class, but from a modern generation. Even if you paid NCIX a $50 assembly fee, I doubt they would give you one number to call when things go wrong like a Hard drive dying. I know a guy that bought an XPS from Dell and they sent him a new Hard Drive when he said it was dying. (and it even had the Windows OS image on it) I doubt NCIX would do that for you. You pay extra for the conveniences and that's what makes it a premium experience. Also, Dell gets good sales from time to time, their refurbished section gets discount coupons in back to school season and the Aurora at least gets in the same ballpark as building your own, but the real deals are with the XPS and Precision Towers, you can sometimes get those for cheaper than building your own.

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Available 27th July. Thats sooner than I expected.

A FACTORY OVERCLOCKED PROCESSOR WITH UP TO 16-CORES / 32-THREADS AND ALL CORES OVERCLOCKED SIMULTANEOUSLY FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE

Sorry for the all caps it was a copy paste. Really trying to stick it to Intel who have 2 cores on the 299 platform that turbo up the highest. Were AMD are just saying nah all of them at once. I know Intel also have all core turbo and AMDs all core turbo will not be as high as a single core turbo but the wording is deliberate.

Don't AMD also have higher single core turbo since Ryzen? I seem to remember it being a selling point.

Very happy for amd as these are high margin and will definately bump up their q2 results for gross margin sales (correct me if I am wrong)

but..

ALIENWARE???

would have thought dell would have used them in workstations

Ya know what, I think the name actually might be helping them get into systems like this. "Threadripper" plastered on a marketing campaign does actually seem like it would sound pretty appealing to the dell gaming desktop crowd.

Well, I think the Enthusiast Platforms are the blurry lines between Workstation and Desktop. The Alienware Area 51 has always used LGA-2011 i7s and you could upgrade them to Xeons if you want to. I equate the Area 51 Boards are the Taichi Boards when I'm doing build comparisons because they're the cheapest 2011 Boards you can find with built in Wifi like the Area 51.

But I think Threadripper is that blurry line between Desktop and Workstation and I think There will be Dell Precision Threadripper Workstations, I'm thinking Dell just didn't announce them early. There isn't much hype culture with the Dell Precision Workstations, but there is with the "jizz in my pants" Area 51.

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Is that the Orb of T'Kketh ? Lets ask The Wizard of Covfefe...

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... "Stand Down Wizard !!!"

I got the orb reference but had to look up the covfeve tie in.

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That could be true today......but once it's out in the wild who knows what effect it will have on game developers / software publishers, that's the thing about innovation it's what drives developers to incorporate and use the technology, sure it's high end first but tech like this does have a trickle down effect, if the tech is good enough you will see it incorporated everywhere and competition developing counter tech to vie for the standard.

Hardware has been mostly stagnate for quite a few years because there was no incentive to innovate, when you own the market as Intel has you can just sit by and milk the cow until it's dry before offering new products and starting that cycle again, they don't have that luxury any more and because of that we will see computing power start moving forward at a much quicker pace.

Well, there's more cores per complex, that means the less need for crossing a workload across the infinity fabric to another complex. Plus, quad channel memory will really help with CPU heavy workloads for games such as physics and NPC population.