A sensible view on the new YouTube Partner terms. Changes that will come Feb/20th/2018

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Then do that but don’t expect to be successful.
Seriously, why are we pretending ad revenue is this massive pot of money? Even with millions of views it is minimal. So to expect a tiny channel to be making money even monitized is not gonna happen. So this change really doesn’t affect them.

Do you really think any let’s play channel would be successful if it was monitized? That’s hilarious.

What? People not wanting to watch them?

If you create content people want to watch you will get views and you will make.money. Through patreon or reaching the ad threshold or any other sources. The content is key.

Lolwut where did I ever say that?

No. Make content people want to watch is what you have to do. There is no reason that can’t be something you know about or enjoy.

If you want to make let’s plays for example then make let’s plays. But you need to find a way to make those let’s plays stand out among other established let’s play channels. Just doing generic let’s plays is a set up for failure.

Make them entertaining do old games, provide history or better commentary, wear elaborate hats when you do it. The point is find a niche and exploit it.

Seriously you’re getting so hung up on ad revenue like that is what makes a channel succeed. No. Create good content. That will get you views and eventually money. Anyone creating quality content shouldn’t have an issue meeting the new threshold and if they don’t they wouldn’t have made money anyway. Even monitized 20 views a month ain’t gonna give you shit.

It will take time. You shouldn’t quit your day job and start making YouTube videos. That’d be a disaster. Create good content in your spare time when you can. Grow. Then when you’re successful you can make.it.your full time thing.

This idea that anyone can just start making YouTube videos and live off the money instantly is pure fantasy. No matter what YouTube’s monitization threshold is…

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For me and my friend we only do lets plays of games, the game we mostly play; Space engineers, has the ability to play survival or creative, right now were doing a patreon server multiplayer series and many people enjoy it, we also do many machinimas that tell a story using the creative mode in the game, If you enjoy something, make it stand out from the rest, quality over quantity.

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This.

This will get you money in time.

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I did make that point in the initial post about not quitting a day job when you have no subs or views.

I think it is rightly justified. Tinfoil hat thinking but there is an elusive algorithm that YT has not fixed or fixed and told no one nothing about it. The walls have only gotten taller.

Partnered stuff shows up first does it not?

Just my opinion.

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the real money maker now adays is patreon and the donation thing from youtube livestreaming, ad revenue is a nice to have but hard to get for the little you get.

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As long as the rest of us keep the power running and the water flowing. We do need more entertainment :slight_smile: or watching people entertaining themselves.
I like porn myself.

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eBegging. I really hate to be that guy who ends every video with “Subscribe please. Patreon me please”

But like I said before it is not about the money to me at least. It is the fact that they are not transparent enough to say that even though you are not a partner. Your content will show up just like everyone else.

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At the end of the day, I think YouTube just wants what’s best for their wallet with the least amount of effort possible.

I’m not saying that YouTube’s changes to the partner program is a good thing for smaller creators, because it isn’t meant to be. Being “fair” was never their intent from the beginning.

Youtube wants to be just like Hulu, Netflix, Twitch, Amazon, etc. They want a piece of that pie, and they will do whatever it takes to get more eyes on their content. If they have to prioritize the better quality content to accomplish that, they will. This new change to the partner program does that in a round about way. It pushes those who want to make money on their platform to make better, more unique content that is suitable for a larger audience. Larger audience = more people. The more eyes on YouTube, the more they make off of advertising.

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This is the classic evolution of a broadcaster:

  1. Serve an audience that is underserved with niche programming, someone your competitors have overlooked
  2. Build your audience with that programming
  3. Once you have a big enough audience, switch to more “mainstream” programming and watch the money roll in!
  4. (But what about our original audience? We wouldn’t be here without them. We owe them something.) Who cares, they’re dispensable! Look at how much more money we can make! Social progress/community/whatever be damned!

It’s a little different from this because YouTube is not a typical broadcaster. It has a wealth of content creators (production companies) that they pay for their shows (content) but only if they pull in enough viewers. They don’t have to sign contracts like traditional production companies would, once they make a deal for a show with a network. The producers could just leave when something better comes along, but YouTube has a monopoly on online video distribution.

Traditional broadcasters can’t take a “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” approach. YouTube also has a huge audience, so they don’t have to necessarily be governed by what the typical demographic is in mass media (whites, age 18-55) but this move shows they are falling into that pattern. It’s sad, and hopefully an upstart will come along and shake things up. They need a good shaking.

Money? Hahaha! We’re paying you in exposure and experience, kid!

True,and that’s where I see this going: audience fragmentation, which is what happened to TV audiences when cable rose to prominence. There will be video sites for many different interests that host content that cater to those niche audiences.

Oh Gaius…you’re so cute when you’re naive.

There are fundamental rules of photography and film that don’t change though. Knowing these will help you make videos with higher production values. This is only from a technical point though, probably won’t help the quality of your content. Above all, you need quality content, but dammit, learn some basic photography and film rules while you’re at it! There’s no excuse not to.

Yeah, like anyone has that kind of free time.

I agree thinking you can make a living from producing YouTube videos is fantasy, but so is the expectation that you can make a hit from working on it in your “spare time,” for the most part. That is seriously one hell of a longshot.

As long as the majority of people’s lives suck and they want to forget about them for a while, we will need entertainment in its many forms.

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Which obviously might not be that much since its questionable if Youtube is even profitable.

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Really do not care… the migration away started awhile ago. You are only fooling yourself if you think you matter now against the corporate interests. You do not. Its modern day example of converting people to puppets by throwing chump change at them. There are those that are going to hop to and those who will migrate away. Its form of slavery now…

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YouTube could have just changed the algorithm to completely bury the channels that don’t meet their new guidlines, use some ‘lowest common denominator’ advertisers that are cool with potentially having their ads shown on new content from people who aren’t vetted, and not even said a word externally to completely avoid it ever becoming a topic in the first place.

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Dont put Twitch on a pedestal because at the end of the day they are ran by Amazon.

This is what I was talking about. Networks coming into Twitch with YouTube stars. When networks like Disney and NBC start getting high profile YouTubers it is bad. There is no more organic growth.

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Read the article.

Thought it was nice how:

None of the content creators are prohibited from uploading to or streaming content on YouTube that wasn’t originally created for Twitch under the new deal, either.

So they’re free to upload it to youtube or where ever. Sounds pretty positive to me.

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That is diversifying your audience and making some content exclusive.

(None of the content creators are prohibited from uploading to or streaming content on YouTube that wasn’t originally created for Twitch under the new deal, either.)

I take that as if something is uploaded under the new deal to Twitch and it is exclusive, it cannot be uploaded elsewhere.

If it is different from how I view this. Then it needs to be made as timed exclusive content. Which I read nothing about.

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That was one of my points. Quantifying exposure results in a lot of ambiguity. Experience…well, that too is ambiguous. There are varying qualities of that as well, but it’s slightly more tangible than exposure. Money is money, you either get enough or you don’t, and it’s pretty easy to make that determination. I was being facetious.

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Mostly everyone who agrees with this new change does not know that 4000 hours must be gained within a year.

Like I commented before. No one likes long videos. If you make video and in the video you get to a part where you explain what you are talking about, the viewer ends the video once the info has been obtained.

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Mmmm, depends, 1.5 hour Tek was better than 12 minute Crit show, miles better.

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True but the content was quality good and everything was good then.

Bias, as am I.

An example of a channel with long videos but with good content.


How to’s though, which will like I said suffer under these guidelines. But he’s not affected.

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