I’ve put together a 1U with 2 E5 2699v4 on an ecommerce website. That’s 36 cores / 72 threads. Quite spicy but I’d like more. I get that’s a bit greedy but I’d really like to get the most out of it for the least amount of money if and when I do have enough money to buy a 128 core Ampere. I’m just looking at my options because I don’t know the server space as well as the consumer space. Help is appreciated.
What do you actually want? A virtual server? There’s Linode to name just one of plenty. If you’re after some real hardware, how much are you willing to spend? And in what kind of enclosure? Rack, SFF, anything in between? Do you go for cores, single core performance, overall performance, connectivity?
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Use-case is key here. That sounds like a decent server already but we dont know what you want to run, test, play with so hard to make any value suggestions.
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Lol ok…
Well based on this I think your priority of getting 1 large bang for the buck server is actually the wrong way to go. It sounds like you want to host lots of concurrent clients with some level of reliability so I would suggest getting 3 lower power servers and setup a Proxmox cluster with shared storage and HA.
Secondly, as to the DDoS issue best you can probably manage without cloudflare is using the TOR network or Snowflake (also TOR but different concept to provide uncensored content).
Another option is to use small VPS/Cloud options to work as ingress/egress points and have VPN’s directly linking your home cluster to these public IP’s that way you can spread your in and out points across multiple IP pools making it hard to go after just you.
I honestly think part of why your getting the reaction you are is in part because of how defensive and protective your language has been. You can totally avoid discussing the content by declaring the challenge clearly.
My suggestion would be to ask in the following way:
Looking for a solution to host 50k users, with text, images, video, and some level of high availability. Self hosting only because cloud scaling is hard to cost control.
Also interested in alternatives to Cloudflare for managing domain and proxy.
Freedom of speech is and should be a universal rite for all people period. That means the good and the bad, however limits also need to exist for the combined safety of all. While I dont know your motivations or political leaning, I would simply ask that you use the information I have provided for the sharing of ideas including those you may disagree with. I would ask that if you use my suggestions you do so in good faith.
Fascists, Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Authoritarians, all should have access to the internet and all should have the ability to speak freely. That freedom ends when it asks or requires its members to limit the same freedom for other groups. So if your goal is to provide freedom of speech only to some and remove it for others, then you are not acting in good faith and not actually asking for freedom and I would ask you not use any of my suggestions.
I dont have to like or agree with you or what you stand for, because I believe free speech is fundamental, even when I dont like the message.
Not bad 1u case, with a little modification you can turn this into an ATX compatible 1U server.
Also things like this can be turned into a cluster using Proxmox and depending on the CPU’s can offer really decent performance. Anything with an 8th gen Intel DDR4 is a good starting point.
I keep an eye on the local craigslist and find some decent stuff from time to time. As long as the person actually understands the value you can find good deals. Same with Facebook marketplace, problem is I wont use Facebook or any Meta product for privacy reasons.
edit/ O yeah one other thing, get on Lemmy/Mastodon and other federated services its harder to shut down free speech when its not controlled by a corporation. FOSS is your friend for fighting censorship.
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I don’t want anything hosted not at my home. I’m looking for something I can host at home for around 300$. I live in the US. Used parts are fine. The setup I stated in the OP is from used parts on an ecommerce website in the US.
It does seem pretty decent though which is why I’m like can I go any higher.
WordPress with Woocommerce
Firefish
Isso
Flarum
That’s about it.
Do enjoy because I’ve never touched grass and I hate anyone having the freedom to express their opinions without being oppressed. You get that there’s only freedom for one side. I can in a hypothetical situation be all for the opposite side and be able to use regular payment processing and not be banned from anywhere. The way it is now I’d be banned from PayPal snd anything else. Not trying to make this political just stating facts. I’m limited in what I can use when I can use anything.
Still not using Cloudflare.
Not be that guy but would you go for just single socket xeons and do that since they can be clustered? The only thing that really gets to me is I saw Jeff Greeling on YouTube and he did a blade cluster and just amazing but that alone is like thousands and I don’t know how viable that is. It’s a bummer that the ARM hasn’t spread out to more budget consumer products. Ampere isn’t that bad when you consider the cost but it’s definitely something to get later.
If you think 1 socket and cluster that’s fine. Obviously less sockets is less electricity.
There is certainly this feeling but I cant see any evidence of it. Private companies have no obligation to share or transmit voices or opinions contrary to their “values”
I can on any public forum or federal land stand and speak anything I want so long as I am not breaking a law or performing a criminal act. I can print and hand out any flyer or pamphlet I want in a public space. I can carry a sign where and when I want.
This is why I support FOSS solutions and activism to post and publish freely on the internet and why I support doing so without corporate control. The internet needs to be and stay free, I may not be able to post anything I want on any particular corporate website, but I should not be stopped by the government from hosting or publishing anything that does not break the law.
1 socket per node is fine if its performant enough for your needs. I dont think ARM is the right way to go for this tbh, it sounds like a traditional web service and that generally scales best by going wide and deep, not just wide, and not just deep.
So 3 single socket fast multi core CPU’s like current gen consumer with 64-128gb will out perform a single dual socket old Xeon with 192gb of DDR3.
Alright.
…but we don’t want the Irish!
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Obviously we cant have the Irish!
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I concur but it’s unfortunate that private companies aren’t held to the same that public is. As in you can stand there and speak about whatever you want. Do the same on a web host and you lose your host, your payment processor, your domain, etc.
I get the use for Tor and Snowflake (I’ll check that out after I post this) and I will include them in my set-up but older people who say an old woman just has no family that cares about her and wants to donate her house to us. Who knows. But if she has to use Tailscale or a something that makes it less accessible then we lose an opportunity to have our voices heard. I’d probably do what you suggested with small VPS/Cloud option and using them as ingress/egress with a side of VPN which should also be open source. I think that’s a great idea.
That seems to be by design in how we create and exercise our freedom and the representatives who codify our requests.
Im also not sure its a bad thing. Private companies cant stop people from paying you in cash, or mailing you checks.
What would be interesting is to see if you live in an area with only 1 internet provider and if you pay for “business” service so you can host at home, and they try to cut you off because your services violate their policy but not the law. Would they be required to continue offering services. I would guess currently no because they are not a public utility, but if argued on the terms of free speech and the fact that no other alternative exists for connecting your servers to the internet I think it would be an interesting legal case.
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Ok, just to get this straight would I be trying to get the cores and score to be what I’d have on one system combined
The Dual 2699v3 is what I was looking at and has a score of 34,724 so would I try to get that with 3 single socket nodes? As in each node would be around 12-15k+ because I’m going off of the score and cores from here along with TDP
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html
I think I wrote in OP 2699v4 and I think that’s 22 cores and it’s like 150 from ServerMonkey. It’s just more while the v3 is much less and it’s still 18 cores.
For example. A newer architecture even with fewer cores can out perform combined Xeons.
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I would definitely fight that extremely hard in court and I’d raise all the money possible to do so. Like I stated this is what I have to do. I must do this.
Ok so I’m just looking for score rather than cores? That’s a good comparison though. I’ll have to check some stuff out and put something together and figure this out.
to some extent yes. The big advantages of surplus server/enterprise gear is often lots of PCIe. But if your not needing to stick 12 20tb drives and 3 GPU’s and dual 100gb networking cards then the advantages start to fall away.
At that point the real advantage is generally higher max ram amounts. But you can overcome that with more nodes.
So you could do something like these small little PC’s that are very low power and still can have very good performance.
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