9950X, what the reviews don't tell you - because the reviewers don't know

No one is accusing you of anything, friend.

Sometimes we all get a bit riled up, and in the heat of the moment drop stuff we thought was correct but on a closer inspection, turns out we got it wrong. It happens to everyone. Every techie is an idiot at times, myself included :slight_smile:

I have enjoyed the thread here mostly, now don’t spoil it man! You said your peace and I thank you for the viewpoint, It is now up to me to spend my hard earned money on something I want, and take a grown ass decision that will undoubtedly bite me in the back whatever way I choose.

It’s tech. Living the dream! :sunglasses:

Behind every computer error there are at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer.

But computers and tech in general are just Magic Black Boxes, we normies can’t possibly understand them, ha :stuck_out_tongue:

Always remember, computers don’t do what you want them to do, they do what you tell them to do.

Once you realise that, then they start making a lot more sense.

Fully agree with OP.

My own results absolutely murder even Skaterbenchers OC guide results using my daily config.

All the #1 spots on OCCT benchmark for 9950x are mine.

Look at 2 channel DDR5 on OCCT, you’ll find the same user very high up.

9950X has the best PBO overclocking user experience ever. PBO behaves intuitively with no “technically functional but practically useless” items e.g. scalar on 3000 series. Yes it had an effect but it was not useful. 9950x responds well to everything.

FMAX +200…yep, effective clocks now peg 5921mhz.
Scalar at 10…yep, VID now + 40(ish) mv.
PPT/TDC/EDC …yep, all work to contain various loads.
CO…yep, massively boosts single and multithreaded loads.
Shaper…yep, allows for big negative CO for all core loads and boosts voltage for single dual threaded work to stabilize.

Asus added per core limiting to the list of knobs to tweak, giving use to async clock for those who know how to use it to gain even more multithreaded speed without losing single/dual threaded stability.

I don’t use static OC aka precise and direct. All scores are PBO tuned. No Dynamic OC switcher, no Core Flex. They’re gimmicks, nothing more.

My daily 310 PPT/225 TDC/225EDC config results in win 11 24H2 with core isolation OFF:

CPUZ:
941 st
19200 mt

R23:
2370 st
48600 mt

R24:
148 st
2740 mt

OCCT
118.x
19xx
244.x
38xx

At 200 PPT it still puts out ~46k in R23.

In gaming, once again, complete non issue. CPU jumps to 5850+ on CCD0 and 5650 on CCD1 and stays there. Frame rates are essentially identical to my delidded and OCd 7800X3D. Why? Well, simple, I don’t play at potato settings on a 2007 monitor. I didn’t hesitate for a second replacing the 7800 with the 9950x.

9950x is snappier in windows, crushes all prior Zen in actual programming workloads like compiling big projects, etc. Windows can finally keep up with my input speed, an absolute joy for a programmer working quickly jumping across many tasks at once.

When recording BM:Wukong using OBS and CPU encoded h264 with some very beefy settings, I pay a whopping 1 FPS. ONE. A Single frame is lost to encoding at near lossless quality.

There’s no config that allowed any 8 core X3D to do the same using an AMD GPU. You absolutely cannot do it, I know, I own them all 5700, 5800, and 7800 X3Ds. I hold or held the #1 spots on basically every benchmark on hwbot for the 5800 and 7800 at one point, some were superceded by LN2 testing etc.

The tech media completely dropped the ball on the 9950x. They’re lazy, ignorant, and have always failed to extract anywhere near the limits of these CPUs (exception being GN when they play with LN2 while guest OC gurus are present).

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Average people don’t micro configure their PC.
I tune my own PC, but I leave my wife’s stock even I could. Life is busy.
The out-of-box review is still very important.

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CS/CO are very much a tweaker paradise, and yet every single guide regarding PBO/CO/CS I’ve seen is violently incorrect about how to get performance from it.

Most media just goes hurr let’s set it to motherboard limits and complain about temperatures, which is so far removed from “right” that it isn’t funny. TDC and EDC also have some interesting knock-on effects that can quite noticeably change overall performance, with more almost certainly not being better.

70 watts less heat to dissipate into the case is better GPU cooling…