Do you guys think that it would be worth it to by an fx-8350 because of Mantle. I'm going to be doing editing and rendering as well as gaming. My only problem is that the 4770k is so freaking expensive!!! Here in Denmark it costs around 400 USD. which is over my budget. If I am to go with the 8350 I will likely pair it with an R9 290 when the aftermarket coolers come out (If they do) So the bottom line is: should I go with the 8350???
8350 is great of budget rendering rigs. The gap between it and a 4770k is hardly enough to justify making the purchase when the cost is so much more for the 4770k.
I would say grab something like a 280x, so you can put more money into say, an SSD. Running render software from SSDs, much like the OS. Greatly increases speeds.
My budget is arround 2000 USD so I'm going with the hyperX 3K. The problem just is that pc parts are SO expensive here in Europe, but I wouldn't call this rig a budget rig :)
Hm.
In that case. I'm of no use. Once a budget goes past £600/€650, I'm lost as to what to do. Someone else will need to help.
The most I can say is try for CF 290's, RAID-0 SSDs, and as much storage as you can manage. You can probably get better results if you use GPU acceleration for rendering.
Like I said, I'm lost to what to do with that amount of money on a PC.
I would actually pick parts based on your level of use, and not your budget, or even price to performance. You don't have to spend all of your money.
If you're going to be doing a lot of rendering, if it is some kind of profession, I would build an Intel socket 2011 system.
If you're going to be doing a fair amount of rendering, but it isn't your most important of system uses, go with the 8350. Maybe the 8320.
The 4770k falls somewhere in between. A lot of people say that the 8350 is biting the heels of the i7 in a number of tests. While this might be true, I would listen to what this guy has to say about it:
http://youtu.be/iHQqpIEw7jk?t=5m40s
Intel i7, after overclocking, pretty much destroys AMD in rendering - it seems. Rendering a 10 minute video in 3 minutes versus 11 minutes speaks for itself. That's a real world test from a reliable source.
Those are some valid points, however the ivy-bridge part is only about 10-20 dollars cheaper than the haswell. And again the 4770k costs 403 dollars the cheapest place that I can find it, while the would 8350 take 218 dollars from my wallet. The price difference is HUGE.
funnily I'm actually on JayzTwoCents channel right now.
I am also worried that the am3+ platform is too old.
That is of course true... When I'm thinking about it rendering is probably going to be the secondary aspect of my new system. I am looking for a cpu that is good for gaming, alright for rendering, a cpu that is not going to break my bank. I'm just worried that the am3+ features will become outdated. I am not doubting the performance of the 8350
It takes a long time for technology to be truly outdated. Hell, people are still gaming on P4s and Athlon 64s.
I'm not saying it won't become outdated. But by the time that it is. there will be very powerful chips out by comparison.
If you want a dedicated rendering system or do a lot of rendering on time restraints intel all the way. 8350 is very good but it is all down to what you are using. To be honest CPU rendering is kind of eralivent if you get a good AMD or Nvidia GPU. Using the correct renderer for the platform will get you far superior rendering speeds.
It really is down to what you are rendering. Is it Video? 3D? Photoshop?. Honestly there is no one answer.
I think that settles it! Unless I find a very good deal on either the 4770k or the 3770k. Thanks for all the replies!
I don't know what software I will use yet. My current laptop certainly isn't capable of rendering nor editing. This is a future build that I'm going to be doing February next year.
Honestly I don't know much about rendering. I just know that I am going to be rendering videos when I have built my new system.
Maybe YOU could recommend some programs for rendering and editing using that 8350.
I'm also probably going to be using an AMD graphics card, so keep that in mind
i think the FX8350 is not a bad choice at all for the money, even if an i7 overclocked kicks the FX8350´s but, then its still not that much of a diffrence, maybe a couple of minutes, is that worth to you 200% cost? for me it wouldn´t, unless i was a professional editor en rendering, but then i would go socket 2011 because the quad channel memory controller anyway.
FX8350 with a R9-290 will be a good combination. in my opinnion. especialy if you use sony vegas that utilize open CL. gpu acceleration.
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No doubt that the 4770k is a better performing cpu! However the price just doesn't justify it's performance for me.
Howabout a Xeon 1230 V3 you whont be doing overclocking with it but its basically a cheaper haswell i7...
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+v3+%40+3.30GHz&id=1942
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4770K+%40+3.50GHz&id=1919
I'm not going with a Xeon builld. Simply because I'm primarely going to be gaming. Thank you for the reply nevertheless :)
Just found out something that complicates things a fair bit. No Asus motherboards (Asus is my number 1 choice for motherboards aswell as gpu coolers) motherboard has pci 3 which concerns me a lot
why? what do you have that goes beyond the bandwidth provided by pci express 2.0 16x?
There is..(ASUS Sabertooth 99FX Gen3 R2)
but there is no AM3+ cpu capable of pcie 3.0 and its not realy in use you dont see pcie 2.0 being fully utilized yet.