i was looking into building a gaming rig with a 290 and was wondering witch one of these would be best for the rig, i was thinking 8350 or 8320 because i couldn't find any gaming benchmarks on the 7850k.
I would go with the FX-8350
If you're just looking at amd stuff, most definately do the 8350.
No need for that igpu on the apu if you're also getting a 290.
At the moment I'd do the FX-8350, on the other hand if AMD actually does everything they have been talking about doing with the APU's for the last 7 or so years... Hard call... But they are not there yet so I vote for 8350.
I'm Talking about cpu power, woIld I get worse performance with the 7850k vs the 8350
If you're already gonna have the 290, then yes 8350, might as well. No sense in getting an APU with graphics if you already have a significantly better dedicated card. And you'll get more threads out of the 8350 for piles and piles of work and.. all those porn Chrome tabs you have open.
Right now? The 8350 hands down.
In the future? Maybe the 7850k. Time will tell.
Also will depend on the specific tasks being processed. In the future we will have to change the way we think about APU's because gaming will no longer be the main purpose and function of the GPU cores.
Right now, the 8350 (or 8320 if you don't feel like spending the extra $ for the 500 Mhz). In the future, maybe the APU (the near future for linux, except SteamOS and Ubuntu, and in the far, far, far and away future for Windows).
FX8320 or FX8350 will blow the 7850K out of the water... its realy no brainer.
I am late on this I know, but I have both... an FX-8350 rig with a 770 GTX and an A10-7850K rig with two, crossfired R9-270X's.
I overclock my 7850 up to 4.3 and it performs equally well to the 8350 (also overclocked to 4.3) on a day to day basis. It will fall behind if I am doing something that can make use of the 8 CPUs vs. the 4. More CPUs are always a nice thing... but as far as individual core performance, the 7850K is quite solid.
I did not purchase the APU for its graphics, but for the cores themselves, as I am a bit of a tech nerd and HAD to have the Kaveri cores. :) But it performs very well for my day to day work (software engineering) and MY gaming... (Skyrim, Civ V, Torchlight, Fallout, Bioshock, etc.) When I say it performs well, there is no difference in most tasks I perform (compilation, server startup times, things like that) and in some cases (WinZip performance) it does better than the FX.
Would love to see some benchmarks :)
i would be interested in seeing some numbers if that's not to much trouble
I've read somewhere that they were suppose to forgo the standalone CPU and make their APUs their flagship processors with an 8 core and a high-end gpu in one die. That would be badass...someday...
Yup, we are geeks. We like benchmarks!
SSD also helps.
7850K is more expensive then an FX8320 or FX8350, it lackes of L3 cache, you also pay alot for an apu you not gonne use.. and in games that are also cpu heavier, it just falls miles back...
Realy whats the benefit? just buy a FX8320 with a nice 990FX chipsetboard. its realy pointless to go with the A10-7850K. if you have a dedicated gpu honnestly.
The interessting thing to see would be how the 7850K can power a 270X CF.. in my opinnion there should be a huge bottleneck. try it in metro last light. crisis 3, skyrim and such..
As of right now, yes the FX-83XX is the better choice. But the GPU cores of the new APU's are no longer going to be used just strictly for gaming. They're already being used for other various tasks for which they're significantly better suited than CPU cores, and will be used more as HSA is progressively adopted by more devs. So you can't say the APU will not be used. In the future it will very much so be used.
As for the 7850k driving a higher-end GPU; we've already seen with mantle that less powerful CPU's are able to drive higher-end GPU much more efficiently than before equating to far less of a bottleneck. The R9-270X is more of a mid-range GPU and the 7850K would actually be a very good match for it, CPU-wise. It wouldn't bottleneck a 270X much, if at all.
All that being said, again, I agree the FX-83XX is the better choice for a pure gaming rig paired with a high-end GPU.
I'm just pointing out that in the very near future, we need to change the way we look at CPU's and APU's and the way they are used in a system. With mantle and HSA architecture, AMD is bringing out some industry-changing innovations.
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on the 7850k, the gpu takes up like half the chip, would be a stupid investment if you weren't planning on using that. Grab an 8320 and overclock. If you were worried about power consumption, maybe wanted to build an HTPC then 7850k for sure, but right now almost any FX series CPUs beat AMD's APU's. That will probably change within the future as AMD's main focus right now are APUs.