I'm wondering for my build if I should go with an octo-core from AMD, spend a little more to get an i5 (not probable), or save some money and go with the fx6300. Right now, this is what I'm going off of:
My questions are on the 6300 (rendering wise). I'm going to be gaming (AAA titles and modding), Programming, doing stuff in UE4, School work, Video editing, maybe some animating.
Will the 6300 be fine for me? or will I need an octo-core? Price to performance wise would it be better to go with one of the octo-cores?
Anyone doing stuff in UE4 please speak up, especially with an 6300!! Tell us details about performance!
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If you're using software that can take advantage of the additional cores, the octo is going to be the winner. The single core performance per dollar between the 6 and 8 core FX chip leans towards the 6300 being the wiser buy though. In your case, go with 8.
If you're going to go AMD for that, get an 8 core. As is already said, software that can use it will benefit more. I would disagree that the single core performance of the 6300 is higher, though, because you can take the 8350 to higher clock speeds. But that's if you even want to, and don't forget the silicone lottery.
AAA Gaming? That's a crap shoot. Some are specifically designed to work better with certain brands, some are just badly coded (I'm looking at you, Batman PC port), etc. I will say that an overclocked 6300 has done extremely well for me, at least.
You could wait for Zen (and Intel's counter) but... Who knows when that'll be, I'm not up to date.
I didnt mean the 6300 was better per core, its the same. But you can grab the 6300 for like $100 so it makes the 8350 seem pricey for the single core performance.
If I may enter the conversation, isn't 6350 a much better choice? Yes, it is 6, not 8 cores, but it's 3,9, not 3,5, which will give it boost in software with low number of threads, and it is still 6 core, so multithreaded software will be fine. It's 120$, and beats 83xx up to 8350 because of the way higher frequency. It's something like middle ground with better per core performance than 6300 and 83xx and better price for limited budget. I actually am doing some research for a friend that wana get 8320E (3,2GHz) instead of 6350 (3,9GHz)... PS: Forgot to mention, if overclocking is a thing, this one have a headstart with 400MHz over 6300 and the crazy 700 over 8320E...
The thing with the 8350 is, that it over clocks like Hell. People getting mostly 4,5 to 4,7 GHz consistently. So it's not a bad choice for rendering and editing if you want to go with amd...
I agree... But reaching 4,4 GHz starting from 3,9 is one thing. But starting from 3,5 or even 3,3 is quite another.. That is what I mentioned.Sorry about the confusion... Also, 8350 for 150? In my country it's over 200$ Sad face...
It's actually easier to get a lower core chip to overclock more. Anything bulldozer is bulldozer, you're going to reach the same architectural limits on every chip no matter what frequency it starts at. Comes down to silicon lottery.
Original statement still stands, for rendering you're most likely going to want the FX 8 core.
About the 6350, keep in mind it might just be a tweaked re-release. Like how the 9xxx is really a 8xxx. I'm not sure if that's the case, but if it is there's no point in getting a 6350 if you do your own OCing. You won't get any more headroom.
I took my 6300 from 3.5 to 4.5. Now, if the 6350 is NOT a tweaked re-release, I would expect to get a 5.0 OC. But if it is, it won't push past the 4.5 OC I got otherwise.
I am aware of that. My idea was, that even if I completely lose the silicone lottery, I will still have 6 core 3,9, and not octa 3,3 or 3,5... But yes, I believe 6350 is just 6300 with 39 multiplier...
I agree. And here comes my other misunderstanding. Here, 6300 and 6350 have 10-12$ price difference. In US it's 25$. Also 6350 and 8350 here have 70$ difference, in US is 20$... For that price I would promote 8350 like I am cashing checks for it. I didn't expect 8350 to be that cheap in US. It is so cheap there, that if I order it from US and import it in my country, it will still be cheaper than buying it brand new here. Also my 3,5GHz was reference to 8320...
Yes, prices are weird. In the US, AMD is always available on the check. Western Europe is usually pretty good too. Canada gets screwed no matter what lol and good luck if you live in some little-known country.
Oh, the 8320? Those.. don't... exist... yes, only the 8350, that's all... yes it is... that's all there is...
Personally, I love AMD, I want them to keep fighting the good fight. But for a current build I couldn't recommend getting them. AM3+ is a dead socket, with no upgrade paths. If you're trying to stay cheap, look into a high end I3, or a introductory i5, you can find good deals on them regularly, and they will out perform the 6300.