So I'm having trouble finding reliable benchmarks to compare the two, not to mention I will be overclocking so I'm more interested in clock per clock numbers than stock speeds.
I'm also torn on which form factor I want to go with since Ideally (I have enough spare parts around) I want to turn my i5, Z97-A machine into a server so I would 100% need a new case (for new or old system)
I'm also thinking of getting an m.2 drive for the new system so thats worth considering.
Yeah I agree with that AMD has never had strong CPUs and i dont think Zen will be up there. Plus the 4960k is fine for what you want to do. at least for the wait for zen.
On the press conference, Lisa Su said "Wider availability outside the partners in Q3". So at the worst - the end of september. If you can't wait till september - i would rather go with 5820K because of a lot of reasons, mainly platform features.
One of the reasons I'm asking this now, is come the fall I'm going to be swapped with school work (possibly, if I don't get the job) and Basic military qualification.
I have time now and my i5 is really bottle-necking me in allot of situations, since I could use the extra processing power to help my friends with their research in graph theory etc.
as for zen, AMD's own claims put it at or slightly above Haswell-E performance, so I'm really torn.
Except during like the late 90s to 2006-07 when they stomped Intel everywhere...
But yeah wait for Zen if it is no good reevaluate your options and see if you really need all those cores on Broadwell-E or Skylake-E. If not go with Many Lake or whatever Intel calls them.
6800K or 5820K would be my choice depending on the price diffrence between those chips. Both chips are good for gaming + productivity workloads.
Also waiting for ZEN is waiting untill who knows? So that doesnt make that much sense to me, if you realy need better performance right now. And if you have the money for X99 then why not. If ZEN is going to launch something that can compete directly with intels enthusiast platform. Then it will also not be cheap so yeah.
AMD said at computex that they were aiming for a 2016 release.
I would just go for the 5820k. There is going to be little difference between it and the 6800k, and Zen can't beat it today and your needs are today. If you could wait, it might be enticing, but if you need a processor upgrade today, than go for the 5820k. It may be another couple months to even 8 months before we see Zen. When AMD wants to push something and when it actually gets released are two different things lately xD.
If i am wrong tell me, so i stop misleading, but what i understand is soon they will start sampling the board partners and companies like Dell and HP and whatnot, and Q3 wider availability for me means lunch? Lounge? Launch? Why did i forget the word...
The difference between 5820K and 5930K is 200MHz and 180$... If you can, replace 5930K with 5820K.
Paul recently did some bench marking with the new 10 core, single threaded was included, it was 20% faster per core than his 5960X per core, they were both oced with the 10 core at 4.3 and the 8 core at 4.6 so.... the ipc gains of broadwell-E are significant enough to justify the price jump.