380 still beats both 950 and 960... And whatever people say, i3+380 or even 6300 with 380 will outperform 950 or 960 in most games.
This one speaks the truth! Well done chosen one.
But seriously... I saw someone pitting the 380 against a 970 because "that's what it's supposed to compete against."
Let me see if I can pull up the video...
Oh no, 970 will destroy 380 in almost any game. The 380 is somewhere between 960 and 970... 390 competes with 970...
Dude just watch the guy... lol
Edit: And also look at how he throws in results for a GTX980 vs 390x at 6:29....
and 8320e can be had for around 120 bucks now, but ya, for gaming it's not the best, only if someone wanted to stream, or do video editing as well.
Any way 'casual' gaming dosent realy call for fitting in the best video card and cpu if all she whants to play is minecraft or league of legends what games will she be playing?
No one has really thrown out the idea of a Pentium G3258 build. But whatever. OCing ftw.
Noone has and none will, simply because of 2 reasons :
1. The budget allows for way better CPUs
2. Even now, there are some games that requires a quad core cpu to work. And Intel's insistence on low core count is astonishing to me.
Riiiight. Sorry to break your bubble.
Here is my suggestion for a 500 USD Mini-ITX build that does not include any peripherals and does not include an SSD or OS. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XJ2dVn
It includes a 30 USD buffer space for taxes and S&H (if needed). If you have some change laying around, you can even include this cooler! http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhl9i Cool and quiet~
A Pentium G3258 is irrelevant you say?
https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/new-build-based-on-the-pentium-g3258-that-fits-in-a-backpack/84031
Totally irrelevant!
Just saying, a G3258 can do a lot if the only need is casual gaming. I don't consider myself a casual gamer, I try my best and push myself to become better in the games I play. A well tuned and properly running rig is important to me, and that overclocked G3258 did what a FX-8320 couldn't, at least for my gaming.
Casual gaming? No need for an intel or AMD FX build. An AMD APU will do you just fine.
I look for best bang for buck and best parts for buck. Crossblade Ranger and Killer boards worked out of box with 7850k and had best ratings.
Try this build on for size.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7rs2cf
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor | $131.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard | Asus CROSSBLADE RANGER ATX FM2+ Motherboard | $161.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | $48.99 @ Newegg
Storage | A-Data Premier SP610 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $50.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $44.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case | $38.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $497.89
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-08 04:37 EDT-0400 |
Or:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9Q2dVn
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor | $125.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock FM2A88X+ Killer ATX FM2+ Motherboard | $97.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | $48.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $89.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $52.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case | $38.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $44.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $499.87
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-08 04:51 EDT-0400 |
Crossblade Ranger? Dam, that's an expensive mobo..
Asrock FM2A88X-Extreme6 + or even extreme 4 will do the same job... And are way less expensive... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88xextreme6
JUST NO JUST NO. You are better off getting a Athlon 750k(other variants) and a mid-high tier dedicated gpu for better gaming performance for the dollar.
ps. the ram that you have chosen which may seem good but its not. It has a high clock speed but the CAS latency of the RAM brings the performance of the APU down.
Dual core at this point in time? I dunno man, gotta go with the 860k over it.
Are you joking? It's 2006 and there are no games using 4 cores...
no no no. You want to pair the 7850k with a low-mid range if you run in dual graphics mode. The OP clearly states that it is for CASUAL gaming. CASUAL gaming usually implies not huge main stream games. Plus, add in DX12 and Vulkan in the future and the APU makes tons of sense.
I also don't trust what Linus says on many AMD things. I trust Logan or Jays2Cents over Linus. Jay clearly shows BF4 running on 1866Mhz with the 7850k at very playable settings. Sure, the kit I selected is 1 CAS unit higher than others. I would be more worried if it was 2 or 3 units higher.
Another reason to start with the 7850k is that you use it to START your gaming carrier off. You can then install a better GPU in the future if you really get into it. But until the OP moves from CASUAL to Mainstream, it is a waste of resources to buy a dedicated card.
Just for Shits 'n Giggles, here are the other DDR3 1866 Kits I would have selected:
Mushkin Enhanced Redline - CAS: 9 - $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226629&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-226-629-_-Product
HyperX Beast - CAS: 9 - $51
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104487&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-104-487-_-Product
HyperX Savage - CAS: 9 - $52
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104511&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-104-511-_-Product
Crucial Ballistix Tactical - CAS: 9 - $54
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148560&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-148-560-_-Product
HyperX Predator - CAS: 9 - $54
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104485&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-104-485-_-Product
Crucial Ballistix Tactical - CAS: 9 - $54
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148554&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-148-554-_-Product
No, seriously. Look at the benchmarks/real world gameplay that I did. Bashing a dual core is rather stupid. Yes, my set of benchmarks is rather incomplete, it doesn't have all the games that are considered "standard" benchmarking games but that does not mean that the data is irrelevant. If you insist on pushing the whole "quad core gaming" thing, BF4 is a quad core game. And yet I was able to hold a fairly consistent FPS even on a full 64 player server. Merely saying that this is "2xxx" year is not a very convicing way to show that games that are currently developed and games that were developed before don't sit on two cores quite nicely. It may surprise you to know that people actually play games from many years ago, not just playing the latest and greatest while they shart money all over the devs.
Just saying that you need a quad core for everything is the same kind of thinking that made Intel able to sell chips that are unlocked for really high prices. Once the marketing group gets enough people to think that a certain set of items is somehow superior to others, they are able to jack up prices to high heaven and people will still buy them.
It's all up to your opinion and your experience though... so I guess there is no helping it if someone who hasn't had such a chip in recent times underestimates how powerful it is.
I do support the APU route, but because of my own lack of personal experience with it (not much gaming of any kind, mostly CAD work), I can't say that I fully understand it. Those things are undoubtedly powerful and will possibly continue to become better as DX12 and Vulkan become more mature.
Just going to reiterate on this. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mmdQWZ
I'm not going to get involved with this big discussion about dual cores but before someone says "wawawa that i3's still a dual core no better than the pentium!", no. Stop. It's hyperthreaded. Go learn. As far as anything running on it is concerned, it's a quad core. Works just the same, besides having maybe a slight drop in single core performance compared to it being not hyperthreaded, which nevertheless still doesn't pull it down to the levels of say, a 6300.
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i3 is way better than Pentium for the simple reason that it supports 4 threads.
It is still dual core, and i hate it for it, but still it will be better than pentium in any way...
I don't get why you're bothered if it performs just as well as some "true" quad cores. You've got the same amount of threads there.
Yeah, this is why i said it's way better than Pentium.
Don't you think, that having 8core CPUs since 2011 i believe, we should have games, optimized for more than 2 cores looooooooooooooooooooong time ago? This is what bothers me.
I don't know. I just don't believe, that in this day and age we need to still have dual core cpus... Multythreading and multicore architecture has been a thing since when, 2006 was Q6600 from Intel? And we had the first ever game requiring 4 cores in 2014 i believe?
Today may be 2 cores are enough, although i don't believe that, but tomorrow it will not be, and then - new CPU...