need help buying a pc.
my mom needs a pc so i said i would build her one.
i got a budget of $350.
the cheaper the better.
she just browses web so im going to put elementary os on it.
integrated gfx is good enough, previously she used my rig which is an electricity qhore
heres what I was thinkin
If cheap as possable is your goal then what you have is not horable but its really dated and with your budget you can get better options.
one example is to put in a cheap spining rust drive and processor into this guy Asrock Deskmini 110
so all that needs is a LGA1151 proccessor? and a bootable drive?
it needs a processor ram and drive. it is your case, Motherboard and PSU.
hmmmm.
kinda limits to physical upgradability.
perhaps i have a raspberry pi 3, is there a way i can serve a decent desktop from my home server to the pi
if not then ill start a new thread
If you are building a web browsing focused PC why are you worried about expandability? The Desk Mini will let you put 2 drives in it so that you can hit your needed capacity and you can start with a Pentium processor or I3 and upgrade over time to an I5 or I7 if there is a real need for it but it's just not necessary for a web browsing focused pc. The AMD options are going to be less powerful and require your mother board have a gpu in it or you have to run an Athlon or APU.
because for the same price, might as well buy the one with extra options
are pentiums really any good these days?
the office runs 5 Pentium laptops for powerpoint and web browsing at live events just fine. Definitly not amazing or anything but if the plan is web browsing than its going to be just as effective as that 4350 without the need of adding a graphics card to make it work.
If you are not looking for a case the size of two soda cans put side by side @Dr.Venkman's build is probably going to be just as good. the Desk Mini is great for what it is, its an UltraSFF PC just a hair larger than a NUC with the capabilities of putting a lot more power in one. Sure you will not be able to put a graphics card in it but that does not seem like thats even a long term concern here.
Mine seems to be working great. G3258 stock clock for running a professional tax preparation program, libreoffice, and internet browsing. No issues, hangups, etc. and I imagine I'm using a bit more stuff than the user of your rig would.
i should mention the Asus M5A78L-M has integrated gfx
ancient 3xxx tho
ok but that still means your processor is going to work harder because it wont have dedicated h.264 decoders to take the strain off the CPU/GPU like a modern Pentium or I3 or new APU. one of the big issues i have is unless you are going to be making a budget gaming rig a FX processor is a bad option you have to use more expensive Mother Boards with garbage GPU's integrated into the motherboard or install a Garbage GPU in the system which requires them be louder as you now have more fans and heat.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8YBgCy
Room to upgrade in the future might be nice?
Looking at something like the g4400 and the i3 6100, single core benchmarks show they arent that far off from each other. The difference can be measured by clock speed. Pentiums are just slightly slower on clock speed and lacking the hyperthreading. None of which matter for shitposting on facebook.
This looks good to me. It might be worth it in the long run to go with the i3 if the budget supports it. The Pentium 4500 is also an option from Newegg with a clock of 3.5ghz instead of 3.3ghz on the 4400. I'd also put any leftover money into a nicer case than the cheapest thing possible, but that is my preference.
Very interesting... more reason to buy the g3258 for this purpose because overclocking is a thing with that one (provided you can get one).
Should do what you need it to for a very long time. Maybe forever. My only concern would be Intels integrated graphics support and ideally you want a pair of DIMM's.
I just come across this. A Pentium with hperthreading. Very interesting chip.
Edit1:
I can't post for a while but,
B&H seem to have them for a reasonable price. As far as I can tell unless I'm mising something and thats very possible, this is an i3 chip for $75.
Is this about the best way to spend 300 bucks?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYDCM8
Two thing spring to mind. H110 support for Kaby lake? Is this complete and total overkill for the job?
Edit2:
Just buy the HP Z420 system. It would be rude not too.
Newegg still sells them but at a premium, they are more expensive than their skylake counterparts just about everywhere you look.
Same, but he did say the cheaper the better.
You know, I almost got the g3258 over the haswell i3 but ended up getting an i3 for a small server build because I wanted a little better single core. Turns out (this was over a year ago) you could overclock them to the moon and back and get more speed than the i3. These little pentiums though are such a good value in the intel line up. Benchmarks put the i3 6100 about 60% faster than the g4400 using all threads/cores, but when you consider that the i3 costs twice as much it really is the best bang for your buck.
In my experience it makes little to no difference in day to day work.
Also @DrunkByDefault I found this on newegg.
That is interesting, I'm assuming thats only available to OEMs though because I cant find it anywhere.
grab a used dell i5 prebuilt from a reseller in your area and use the remaining $200 to play the crypto markets