So I plan on building a $1500 ish build soon and i'm still on the fence about the graphics card. This is a gaming build so which ever is the best for performance while still being cool. I'd also like to be able to overclock them and also. How so they stack up against a gtx 780 in games (bf4, crysis 3...) I'd like to be able to play in 1080p with ultra settings and have 60fps+ if possible
Heres the build i have in mind for anyone who's curious http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1G8If
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2x 7950 are the best price to performance, if you d ont have issues with the crossfire they are quite a bit faster than the 780, if you factor in mail in rebate you can get 2 for almost half of a 780 and if you dont get duds you could get a about 50% oc on the core clock compared to the reference spec.. BF4 is not released yet, but if you dont go crazy with the filters you should max out Crysis 3 around 60 fps when overclocked.
The 9000 will be out soon and there could be very nice price drops if amd doesnt want your soul for their high end gpu, so maybe just hold off a few weeks.
So then which aftermarket 7950 would you recommend?
Great OC headroom ( some go 1300 core and beyond) looks nice, xfx quality and warrenty, good cooler, only 200 after MIR
come with 3 free games of choice each (including saints row 4) and crysis 3 each, thats 8 recent AAA games (you could do a giveaway of some or sell saints row 4 and crysis 3 on ebay for considerable cash).
How to would the crossfire 7950s do in 1440p?
Quite nicely since they have 3 gb vram and a 384 bit mem bus, your framerate in 1440p is generally about 30% lower than 1080p though.
Unless you are rendering take the 8350 from AMD and toss two 770's or 7970 Ghz's in there.
Will i see a substantial performance increase with 7970 ghz over the 7950?
EVGA GTX 760 Superclocked edition either reference or ACX cooling is a good way to go. 2 of them are faster then a GTX 780, just like the 7950's,similarly priced to the 7950's too, except Nvidia's drivers are always much more stable and deliver a more optimized performance in some games. They have that new optimization list for newer games to help boost graphical performance.
So then these are my two options http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Govd or http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Gpuf
If you're just gaming, definitely the first build.
Which 7970 ghz should i get then?
wtf? Are you guys morons? Go with the Intel build.
Both builds are nearly identical, cost about the same, and the i7 4770K is going to spank the pants off of an FX-8350. Why would you spend the same amount of money for something inferior. If you're going to be a fanboy, you might as well go to your local Apple store and buy all your tech from there.
Is the i7 worth giving up the 7970ghz?
It definitely is. There's no point in getting a ghz edition card. If you want an overclocked card, then overclock it yourself. There's no point in spending more money on a mild overclock, when you could get a normal card and manually overclock it to higher clock speeds than you would get out of a ghz card in the first place.
Any label you see on a card like ghz or superclocked is just marketing bullshit. Increasing a card's clock speed by only 50mhz is not going to make much of a difference at all. Get a regular card and overclock it by 200mhz or more and then you will see more of a difference.
Unless the PCB is a custom design, then you're not going to see any difference in terms of overclocking between the two cards. The PCB for the Ghz edition and the vanilla version are identical, which means you're going to be spending $75 more per card for 50mhz extra. Is that worth it to you when both cards have the same overclocking potential and you can manually overclock them much higher than the ghz edition anyway? You might as well be flushing cash down the toilet.
Within the price frame suggested, Nvidia's GTX 760 is the best way to go. Go with either PNY, EVGA, or MSI because of their warranties. Also, because it runs off the Kepler GPU, it can do Shadowplay and enables Shield game streaming. It can be overclocked and runs about $250. Ridiculously good deal.
If you are mainly gaming... the i7 is not worth it. The i5 or that 8350 would be best. Also, the 7970 GHz edition is not worth and extra $80. Just get this one and overclock it: http://amzn.to/15iYLfJ
You can spend the extra money getting a larger SSD or something. I would only get an i7 for productivity as the gaming benchmarks are almost identical to the i5 and only a couple fps better than the 8350 (8350 does win in some games too).
That's true too. I was just looking at the two builds he posted, and between the two, the i7 build is an all around better system.
Overclocked a 7970 is maybe 15% faster than an overclocked 7950, some might say 10% or 20%, but for around ~ 50% more money you dont get nearly enough extra performance. If its only gaming you can of course cheap out on the cpu, my 4+ year old i7 920 doesnt even have problems anywhere and an almost 7 year old q6600 @3.2 or 3.6 isnt half bad in most games.
So then how about this??? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Gs6X