10 GBit NIC - Intel x710 going EOL without successor? - Other recommendations?

Hi Forum,

I want to add a 10 GBit network card to my upcoming AM5 system.

For 1 GBit, Intel Controller are what you want (At least that is what the Network stack guy tells me, and I had the least trouble with Intel Controllers in my SysAdmin days).

What about 10 GBit Controllers?
Intel has 3 Controllers which are sold with RJ-45 (=“Ethernet”) ports in the market:
x540 - since 2012
x550 - since 2016
x710 - since 2018

Unfortunately, it seems like the X710 goes EOL or there are supply-chain-issues, since the retail version is in stock only at one retailer for 50% more then the usual price:

And in general, only the 4 port cards are in stock:

Will there be an Intel x800 successor 10 Gbit card (the x710 is 5 years old at this point)?

Are there other 10 Gbit Controllers with a good standing?

The enterprise has moved on from 10Gb, so really the only new 10Gb stuff will be consumer based or far and few between

Most stuff in the industry is now SFP28

2 Likes

There are 800 series cards: 800 Series Network Adapters (up to 100GbE)
You could get a SFP->RJ45 module to connect to existingg 10Gbit, like for example https://www.fs.com/de/products/89577.html?attribute=43127&id=693662

I personally use Mellanox ConnectX-4 Lx cards with SFP28 / fiber

3 Likes

The linked SFP(+)->RJ45 module will work in a SFP28 slot, since SFP28 is backwards compatible with SFP(+), correct?

2 Likes

Yes, according to this article.

SFP+ vs SFP28

SFP+ is mainly linked to 10G, while SFP28 is commonly associated with 25G connections. They use the same form factor, and the pinouts of SFP28 and SFP+ connectors are mating compatible. So SFP28 will work with SFP+ optics but at a reduced speed of 10 Gbit/s. And SFP+ modules will work well with the SFP28 port on a network switch if the port can be set up for 10G transmission, otherwise, the SFP+ modules can not work.

6 Likes

I’ve got plenty of ConnectX-4 cards with SFP+ modules running at 10G, works fine

1 Like

Mellanox Connect-X 4 and 5 here in my Linux and Windows machines, fs.com and Mikrotik 10GBASE-SR and 10GBASE-T SFPs work flawless. Lots of options from single port SFP+ to dual port QSFP28, all have similar features and support Infiniband too.

1 Like

Is it important that the SFP+ module claims it is Intel compatible?
Does “MSA-conform” mean anything?

Probably wouldn’t hurt or verify if someone else has had used them the particular NIC.

That is regarding the standardized physical shape and design of the module so that there aren’t clearance issues or pin-out issues across vendors.

1 Like

Typically Intel NICs are supported for at least 10 years. If you get one of the newer “L” x700 series cards then they launched in 2019-2020 so I would expect driver support to at least 2029.

I’ve used X540-T2 for several years. I may have had one fail recently (not had chance to check). The great things about Intel is that many systems have drivers, and often get them before the other chipsets. One thing to note is that the 540 (and I think 550) using PCI 2.1 and so need 8 lames (for the T2). This eats up your PCI lanes - the x710-t2 only need 4. I’m on AM4 so have x8 for the GPU and x8 for the x540-T2, leaving only a x4 for anything else. Of course, if you don’t need all PCI lanes it may not be an issue.

As to the X710, I don’t see supply issues in the US (not looked too hard), but they are expensive (around $370+)

Well, but SFP28 is generally backward compatible to SFP(+), therefore pin-out/physical shape should never been an issue?
From sight reading, it seems the me like this SFP28/SFP(+) modules can have firmware, and if the NIC in question does not like sth (e.g. the vendor string) of said firmware, it might stop communicating with the module, but the NIC could make it work with any module if it wants to do so.
But I have no experience in this, so I dont know.

Broadcom BCM57416 might be an option?

1 Like

x550 is pci-e gen 3 and uses 4 lanes.

1 Like

I have a bunch of SFP28 stuff at work, they look identical in dimension to SFP+

According to Wikipedia they are mechanically identical. I just verified this at work by sticking an SFP±transceiver into a stacking-port marked SFP28. Since nothing blew up and the switch reported 10G transceiver/down, I am assuming that would work fine.

Like @gysi linked above, they are also electrically compatible.

2 Likes

I have a couple of SFP28 DACs that I use in my SFP+ gear and it runs just fine at 10gb speeds. The SFP28 cables generally support 1/10/25 and since they are pin compatible with SFP+ they work fine in either scenario, as long as the firmware knows to fall back to a 10gb connection when the hardware it is plugged into doesnt report it can do 25gb.

1 Like